Subject: SMML27/02/98VOL103 shipmodels@wr.com.au --------------------------------- INDEX 1: Re: Bismark reference 2: USS Lexington, CVT-16 3: Re: IDEA 4: FS CWS Kirishima 5: Re: Locations/Bismarck PE question 6: Update Italeri late Nimitz-class CVNs? 7: RE: Floquil Deck Blue 8: Grating 9: Re: IDEA 10: Re: glass or plastic rectangular display cases 11: Weather Deck Blue 20-B 12: Titanic Funnel Colors 13: Revell Titanic Kit Search 14: Pacific Front New Arrivals Page 15: Re: Floquil Deck Blue ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Morley, James (Frankfurt)" Subject: Re: Bismark reference These aren't strictly the best, but you may find them more interesting than the normal "Squadron/Signal", "Walk Around" or "Lock-On" type publications. "Battleship Bismark" by Baron Von Müllenheim-Reichberg (the highest-ranking survivor of the sinking) which is a full account of the last voyage, the chase and the sinking, with photographs and drawings. "The Discovery of the Bismark" by Dr Ballard (the man who found the wreck a few years ago) this is full of the same sort of "before and after" pictures and drawings of specific detail that he did with the wreck of the Titanic (which he also found). This also tells the story of the sinking and Dr Ballards' various attempts to find the Bismark at the bottom of the Atlantic. For story only, try the classic "Sink the Bismark" by Ludovic Kennedy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: jdcorley@ix.netcom.com (james corley) Subject: USS Lexington, CVT-16 >> Several years ago, Revell produced a kit of this carrier. I am looking to purchase one of these out of production kits. Any help would be appreciated. << I could be mercenary, but the LEXINGTON museum has a supply of these kits. Don't have the number, but they were $15+S&H. Try the SALEM webpage, I think they have a link. James ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: McKellar Subject: Re: IDEA >> If anyone finds themselves with occasion to visit the PT boat museum at Battleship Cove, I'd be eternally grateful for photos of the Shinyo Special Attack Craft. I'd like to build a 1/72 example to go with my Kaiten, Type A submarine, and Oka. If there are any volunteers, I can send a roll of film and a self addressed, stamped return mailer. << Kenneth, I expect to go in the Spring and will make a note on the list here beforehand. Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: BECJPARKER@aol.com Subject: FS CWS Kirishima I have a CWS Kirishima I want to sell 1/350 scale. $200 pluse shipping Anyone interested??? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: drwells@hogpa.ho.att.com (David R Wells) Subject: Re: Locations/Bismarck PE question Doug wrote: >> I got the old Lindberg Bismarck for a Birthday gift-can anyone recommend a good reference work for detailing the thing, it's a little sparse. I picked up the GMM brass detail set for it, but I'm thinking it might be a 'silk purse/sow's ear' situatuion. As I've not ever built a ship kit, I'd like some input from other list readers. << I suppose you could use the GMM 1/350 brass set, but I think it would be a waste of brass. The kit is nominally 1/384, but it's hopelessly inaccurate. The shape of the hull is all wrong, they've got raised panel lines for "steel" plates on the deck, (should be wooden planking....) the kit is hopelessly under-detailed, etc. I'm afraid the Lindberg kit is a complete waste of polystyrene. One good reference on the Bismarck is Dulin & Garzke's "Battleships: Axis & Neutral Battleships in World War II". Expensive, but worth every penny. Mullenheim-Rechburg's (sp??) book "Battleship Bismarck: A survivor's story" has a only few pictures, but is an excellent read for those interested. David R. Wells ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: "Les Dorr Jr." Subject: Update Italeri late Nimitz-class CVNs? Considering purchase of one of the Italeri 1:720 late Nimitz-class CVNs. The later ships (Abraham Lincoln, John Stennis,George Washington) have significant differences from the earler ships. Has anyone detailed what changes should be made to make the later Italeri kits more accurate? Any and all suggestions welcome before I spend the $$$. Les (ldorr@capaccess.org) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Bruce Ross-QBR000 Subject: RE: Floquil Deck Blue I called Floquil direct at (518)843-3610 and they do have a Deck Blue 20-B. Ask for their product number 818600. They were very helpful and I managed to get two bottles out of a newly mixed batch. Bruce Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: BEN8800@aol.com Subject: Grating Some time ago we were discussing small gratings for small scale ship models. Tho I have not looked at it, Small Parts, Inc. sells polyurethane and stainless steel screening that has openings as low as .0029" square. Mighty fine stuff. Perhaps this could be used for those small gratings. Ben ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: jpoutre@lehman.com (Joseph Poutre) Subject: Re: Idea >> I was wondering if if might be helpful for each of us to let the rest know where we are and what ships are available to photograph for modeling references. I've photographed each of these ships for my own interest but I'd be happy to make copies or take specific pics for a fellow modeler. I'd guess others would be will to do so as well << I can offer the Intrepid et al, any ships that come in during fleet week, South Street's ships, the submarine Ling and a Vietnam PBR, and any other vessels in the NYC area. Hopefully I'll also be able to offer the BB New Jersey within a year. Joe Poutre ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: CHRIS DRAGE Subject: Re: glass or plastic rectangular display cases >>> Does anyone know of a supplier of glass or plastic rectangular display cases???? I have a collection of 8 small tall ship models I would like to have out to enjoy and avoid the dust. The plan is to find shelves for each one, attach it to the wall, and set the models and the covers on the shelves. They range in size from 15"w, 15"t, 4"d to 22"w, 18"t, 4 1/2"d. <<< >> Why not make your own? I do. I model 1:700 dioramas featuring WWII R.N. warships. I can never get the right sized display cases for these so I decided to have a go and build my own. I use 2mm Polystyrene sheets (3' x 2') which is cut with a special styrene cutter (produces a very clean cut). The sides and top are glued using solvent. For a base I use MDF board into which the sides are screwed. Providing you are careful with the solvent and not get any on the clear plastic sides, I makes a lovely job. Best of all, it fits your model better than any bought one! << > Great thought!!!! You may have just saved this "sinking ship!!!!!" The estimates I have been getting were well out of my range and as much as three times what I paid for the models. I was about to just give it up. I have the nerve to try and build the cases you suggest, given the materials and tools. However, I could surely use some input on technique. Would you mind sharing how you assemble them with me? Could I prevail on your good nature for information about a supplier? < You should be able to but here in Britain we can get all these items from a big D.I.Y. superstore. The polystyrene sheets are packaged with other corrugated plastics etc in the roofing section! The special cutter I found in the hardware section and as for solvent I use the Humbrol one with its long narrow delivery tube. Initially I used a liquid poly running it into the joints with a pait brush. It proved successful but also disasterous! The polystyrene develops such an enormous static charge that it can litterally 'blast' the solvent all over the sides! I did wonder what was going on at first! Using the tube delivery there are no problems. You can make some very professional cases but they inevitably all look rather 'rectangular'. Bloody strong though! Regards, Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: BSteinIPMS Subject: Weather Deck Blue 20-B >> I'm looking for Deck blue for a project. My local store carries Floquil paints but there doesn't seem to be a "Deck Blue" in their line up. I even had the guy check his catalog and there is no example of this color. Is it known under a different name? Is it available from a different manufacturer? << Floquil calls it "Weather Deck Blue 20-B", and it's part of their naval colors line. Bob Steinbrunn Minneapolis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: bknauer@erols.com Subject: Titanic Funnel Colors Hi gang! I was hoping someone out there working on the Titanic Model could help me with the color they used to paint the funnels. I have a paint (Afrika Mustard) that's close but I can't seem to commit myself to it yet before seeing what others have done. I could mix the colors but was hoping to take the easy way out first. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! Bill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Bill & Kaja Michaels" Subject: Revell Titanic Kit Search I am looking for two copies of the Revell 1/570 scale Titanic kit. I've been thinking about this project for a while, and was surprised to find that the recent movie has caused a rush on these kits, I can't find 'em anywhere! I've tried all my local stores, as well as online outfits including hobbyweb, ADP, Pacific Front, and North Coast, among others. Does anyone have a lead on a source for these kits? Bill Michaels Acton, Mass, USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Rob Mackie" Subject: Pacific Front New Arrivals Page Ship modelers can now get timely updates on recent arrivals/featured items at Bill Gruner's Pacific Front Hobbies. The "Recent Arrivals" page will be updated weekly and can be reached by clicking on the Pacific Front logo at the bottom of the Warship home page at http://warship.simplenet.com Rob Mackie El Cerrito, California Warship http://warship.simplenet.com The Free Site for Ship Modelers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: "Dan Goodpasture" Subject: Re: Floquil Deck Blue >> I'm looking for Deck blue for a project. My local store carries Floquil paints but there doesn't seem to be a "Deck Blue" in their line up. I even had the guy check his catalog and there is no example of this color. Is it known under a different name? Is it available from a different manufacturer? << Paul: I'm guessing your local store caters to the railroad trade, right? Mine does, and as such only carries the Floquil Railroad Colors. "Deck Blue" (cataloged as Deck Blue 20-B) is in the Floquil Marine series. My store has no problem getting them, except for the occasional delay. They are listed in my copy of the Floquil catalog, maybe his was outdated. In any case, it can be ordered direct from Floquil (assuming you're in North America). I'll get you the address if needed. BTW, I have heard that this particular Floquil color is not a good match (more good news!), but that Floquil's Navy Blue 5-N is a better match for the original Deck Blue. Hope this helps, Dan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume