Subject: SMML31/01/99VOL442 Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 01:32:46 +1100 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Aircraft Carrier Under Sails 2: Re: Pint chip RR article 3: Paint 4: Re: 1/250 railings 5: Re: Torpedo Boat V-108 6: Re: Hobby Link Japan 7: Re: Hobby Link Japan 8: Re: V 108 Card Model 9: Re: Card model Torpedo boat V108 10: "The Quartermaster" resin kits 11: Detail vs. the whole picture 12: Cunard color 13: Re: V 108 14: SUBSCRIBE 15: Re: Chris's Comp. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Re: WEM Narrow Seas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Pletscher-Lenz-Schneider" Subject: Aircraft Carrier Under Sails Years ago, when I was still a beginner of modelling, I read a curious story about an ESSEX class carrier which was heavyly damaged in the Pacific. I think it must have been by a kamikaze hit. This carrier was still able to make her way home under her own power. But to assist steering, canvas were rigged at the bow - I think underneeth the flight deck - as emergency sails. I don't know where I read this, but I presume it was in an instruction sheet of one of those early 1/720 ESSEX class kits of Revell. Does anybody remeber? Most of all, does anybody know more about this aircraft carrier under sails? Falk Pletscher -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: BillBramha@aol.com Subject: Re: Pint chip RR article I'd like to a get a copy of that if it's not a problem. I agree with your comments. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: BillBramha@aol.com Subject: Paint One thing I learned from painting 54 mm Napoleonics: the highlight of a color will appear dull if only whitened. Add white to red and you get a (dull) pink. The way to maintain the same color intensity as the base hue is to mix in the adjacent color, in this case yellow. Thus, highlights on a red uniform have an orange cast. Another thing I find helpful: while highlights are opaque, shadows are translucent and best achieved by glazing blues and greens onto the base coat. How all this applies to ship modeling in 1/350 scale is the next question. Bill Bramhall Just Another Modeler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Pletscher-Lenz-Schneider" Subject: Re: 1/250 railings As far as I know, HMV (another card model company) has developped special etched brass sets for their models and possibly also universal railings and fittings sets. Just have a look atL: http:\\www.scheuer-struever.de. Scheuer & Struever in Hamburg also has railings in several scales made of thread. Falk Pletscher -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Pletscher-Lenz-Schneider" Subject: Re: Torpedo Boat V-108 The torpedo boats of the V 105 - 108 type were laid down in 1914 for the Netherland as Z 1- 4 at A.G. Vulkan, Stettin. On 10 Aug. 1914 they were confiscated for the German navy. V 108 was launched on 12 Dec. 1914 and commissioned on 23 Mar. 1915. In 1916 she became a training vessel. On 5 Aug. 1920 the ship was handed over as a prize to Poland, which renamed her KASZUB. She sank on 20 Jul. 1925 at Gdansk (Danzig) after a boiler explosion and was later lifted and broken up. Source: Groener, Die deutschen Kriegsschiffe 1815-1945 Vol.2. Where did you find that model, Geoff? Falk Pletscher -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Burl Burlingame / Pacific Monograph Subject: Re: Hobby Link Japan At the same time the debate over Hobby Link Japan was occuring, I got and email from their listserver. I'll repeat it in full: "After a long wait of nearly four months, HobbyLink Japan's free e-mail newsletter is finally back up and running. The provider we were using disabled our old mailing list in error, and then was completely uncooperative about repairing the damage. Needless to say, we've changed providers. However, since our original list of addresses was lost through the previous provider's incompetence, I am taking the liberty of sending this message to all HLJ customers who have an e-mail address on file with us. That means that some people who hate getting unsolicited e-mail messages are probably upset with me at the moment, and for that I apologize. You can unsubscribe yourself from this list by sending an e-mail message from the address you want deleted to majordomo@listbox.com with "unsubscribe hljnews" in the body of the message. However, if you're interested in receiving regular reports about new products, rumors, special offers and other Japanese hobby industry news, then you don't need to do anything. If you received this message, you're already subscribed to the new HLJ News. And what news do we have for you today? Well, the word "Swordfish" is being repeated with great regularity these days by industry people who enjoy aircraft release rumors. Who knows what interesting things Tamiya may have up their sleeve when they arrive in Germany for next month's show. But the biggest announcement we have to make concerns ourselves. On Friday, February 5th, HLJ will unveil a greatly-improved version of itself on our all-new domain: hlj.com. This move, to one of the world's largest and most sophisticated web hosting companies, will mean connections much, much faster than what you're currently accustomed to. And we have several more major improvements in our service coming next Friday that will make our pages easier to use than ever before. Be sure to see all the changes for yourself first-hand next week! One of the most important changes will not be immediately obvious to you, but our site will become primarily server-side database driven. This is the normal configuration for any major mail-order web site, but our own growth got the better of us over the last year or so, and it took a while for us to implement since we're always so busy filling your orders! What this means is that web site updates will be much, much easier for us to carry out. While the actual pages will look the same as what you're used to, you'll see a lot more new product data, a lot faster. So look forward to February 5, and as always, thanks for your patience with us as we continue to build and improve what we feel is already the Internet's most exciting modeling mail-order site." Burl Burlingame Pacific Monograph, 1124 Kahili Street, Kailua HI 96734 A historical interpretation company. Visit our web site at http://www.PacificHistory.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Jakloek@aol.com Subject: Re: Hobby Link Japan I've ordered one kit from them, it needed backordering, took about 4 months, but I did get it. I just ordered again, and I will update the list with what happens. Also, in regards to the comments about lack of web site activity from HLJ, I just received an email HLJ news. They apologized for a 4 month hiatus in news, but also said that on Feb. 5, they are going to a completely new web site, HLJ.com, which they say will give much better service. They also hinted that Tamiya will soon announce a Swordfish. Jim In Rochester, where we had 40 inches of snow in one week recently. Today, we just had 3 inches of lake effect fluff. Ask me about Lake Effect Snow. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "F J Hueso" Subject: Re: V 108 Card Model Hello to all! Geoff: Regarding your request about V108, I've got that model about 2 months ago and I agree, it's nice. My only reference is Groener,vol I. V105 class torpedo boats was built by AG Vulcan, in Stettin and included V105 thru: V108. The data are the same.Concerning their career, Groener states as follows: Launched 12-12-1914. Commissioned 23-03-1915. Training ship 1916. Released 5-08-1920; Polish prize, renamed Kaszub. Sunk 20-07-1925 at Danzig Neufahrwasser after a boiler explosion. Raised 29-07-1925.Broken up. If you got some more data would you please e-mail me? Regards. Javier Madrid (Now again dry, but also more warm) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: Brian Selzler Subject: Re: Card model Torpedo boat V108 I found a mention of the V105 class of German torpedo-boats in "Warships of World War 1" by H.M. LeFleming. They were a class of four vessels ordered by the Netherlands but were taken over by the German navy. V107 became a casualty when it struck a mine off Libau. In 1920, V105 and V108 were acquired by Poland and renamed Mazur and Kaszub. V106 was scrapped in 1920. Kaszub blew up in 1925 and I assume was a total loss. There is a picture of Mazur in "Janes Fighting Ships 1939" and in the 1945 Janes it is stated that she was sunk in action with German aircraft at Gdynia, September 1, 1939. By the way, the V in V108 stands for Vulkan shipyards of Stettin. Hope this helps, Brian Selzler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: BSteinIPMS@aol.com Subject: "The Quartermaster" resin kits Bob Thomas, aka "The Quartermaster", who is producing resin kits of the U.S. WW II 5"/38 Cal. gun mount and other weapons, advises me thusly: >> Dear Bob; Good day to you Sir! At this point in time, in order for you to get a copy of my fittings list is to forward to me your mailing address and I will promptly send you a copy of my listing. By the way, due to Graham's promptings, I have begun working on the developments of the twin 40 mm. gun mount once again. Will keep all updated as things develop. Smooth Sailing, Bob Thomas "QuarterMaster" qmaster4@juno.com << Bob Steinbrunn Minneapolis (Where the trees were coated with 3/8" of hoarfrost this morning, producing a monochromatic white surrealistic landscape and everyone (1) pinched themselves to ascertain whether they were alert and oriented, (2) possibly this was a faeryland and we were being treated to a rare and unusual spectacle, or (3), this is Minnesnowta and all is merely "business as usual"..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: BSteinIPMS@aol.com Subject: Detail vs. the whole picture While somewhat further afield than the usual dialog contained herein in SMML, I thought you all might enjoy the following since we all seem to immerse ourselves in detail to the extent that we sometimes lose sight of the broader view. Bob Steinbrunn Minneapolis (Where the Eskimos all come to the Mall of America to buy their refrigerators.....) Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson went on a camping trip. After a good meal and a bottle of wine they lay down for the night, and went to sleep. Some hours later, Holmes awoke and nudged his faithful friend. "Watson, look up at the sky and tell me what you see." Watson replied, "I see millions and millions of stars." "What does that tell you?" Watson pondered for a minute. "Astronomically, it tells me that there are millions of galaxies and potentially billions of planets. Astrologically, I observe that Saturn is in Leo. Horologically, I deduce that the time is approximately a quarter past three. Theologically, I can see that God is all powerful and that we are small and insignificant. Meteorologically, I suspect that we will have a beautiful day tomorrow. What does it tell you?" Holmes was silent for a minute, then spoke. "Watson, you dunderhead. Some screwloose has stolen our tent." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: Vimieraa@aol.com Subject: Cunard color Some time ago a question was asked as to the correct color used on the funnels of ships of the Cunard Line. If the person who asked the question is still searching, perhaps they would like to contact me privately. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) To: "SMML" Subject: Re: V 108 Geoff, It never fails just as soon as I hit send I found a much larger line drawing (14" length) in German Warships of World War I, The Royal Navy's Official Guide to the Capital Ships, Cruisers, Destroyers, Submarines and Small Craft, 1914-1918. The offer still goes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: "Mark W. Nelson" Subject: SUBSCRIBE Hello! I'm interested in your website because I am a WWII naval buff, and I need some information. I'm currently planning to model the USS Franklin in 1/700 scale, and I want to include the USS Santa Fe (CL-60) in the diorama. Do you or anybody else out there have information on that cruiser? (specifically, was her bridge the round or square version, and what camouflage scheme did she carry in March, 1945?) Please email me with the info...Thanks!! Mark Nelson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: CHRIS DRAGE Subject: Re: Chris's Comp. Hi Guys, Well, as Shane has now posted the entries in Chris's "Guess my sig." competition. It is up to me to do the judging..... Is A.R. listening to this....? ###################################################################### >> I have two translations: 1. You can block spears but you can't block words or 2. You can deflect weapons but you can't deflect words. Regards Lester Abbey Wellington New Zealand Summertime here - but sleet in the mountains << Lester Abbey??? Leicester doesn't have an Abbey....! Trust a Kiwi not to be able to spell! Deduct one point. Close Lester very close.. 8/10 >> From: "Martin Short" Chris, I've taken your bait!! He tao rakau e taea te karo, tena he tao kupa kaore e taea te karo... (Te reo Maori) Maori is not an easy language to translate, but here goes....., the metaphorical translation of Chris' saying is .... A spear may be dodged; but not sarcasm Martin. (9.00pm, 25C, and sooo stuffy, reminds me why I prefer Wellington) Points out of ten? << I prefer Wellington too Martin, and 'short' people ARE definitely a cut above the rest but you can't get around me like that! I had to deduct a point for cunningly trying to influence the judge. 7/10 But....But! I have to add on one point again as Wellingtonians are great people and don't boast about the number of p.u.s they go to like certain Aussies I could mention. 8/10 >> From: "arthur" It sounds like Chris is a Kiwi who has flown the nest. From 28 degree C to dismal Shepherds Bush. << Got it in one - add a bonus point. >> Translation of Te Reo Maori: Human spears can be deflected, but not those of misfortune. Arthur NZBG << Well, Arfa. That spear was almost deflected towards the right answer! 8/10. ####################################################################### >> Well Chris, up to you now: Shane << Yes it is Shane and the judge's decision is unanimous. No correspondence can be entered into. By no clear advantage at all but with great attention to detail (especially to 'rigging' the answer) all three of them deserve first prize. 10 modelling tips will be winging their way to each of our lucky prize winners. Yes, being an I.C.T. Journalist as well as a teacher, I have learnt that indeed 'the word is mightier than the sword' and the nearest Maori translation to this is the one that follows. Now, perhaps, we can all get back to some decent modelling :-))!! Chris He tao rakau e taea te karo, tena he tao kupa kaore e taea te karo.... (Te reo Maori) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Caroline Carter" Subject: Re: WEM Narrow Seas First off, Thank to Ed Gruner for his nice comments on the 1/350 NARROW SEAS range.. secondly, having established this range and gotten such good feedback re. the quality of production, we feel quite inspired... with a little inspiration from John Lambert (great plans, and.. did I mention his Flower Class book is on the way from WR Press for sometime this year...) and from Al Ross (Coastal Forces, Bangor), and from Paolo Pizzi re. some brilliant Italian material, I have updated the paper lists recently to include the next batch of forthcoming subjects.. we have the input of a Germany-based SMMLlie as well, so we will just keep going on these until everyone gets bored!! Oh and yes, we ARE talking Elcos, MGBs as well.... Cheers! Caroline Carter, White Ensign Models http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume