Subject SMML15/10/99VOL699 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:11:09 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: National Maritime Museum 2: New Kits 3: Fujimi 1/700 Iowas 4: Re: Scale Hose/Cable 5: 1/250 6: Re: model fire hose 7: Horror story 8: IPMS(USA) Constitution & bylaws 9: John Frohock's Ship Trip 10: Re: BB aircraft 11: Re: Beware of Viking Models! 12: Book Review - The Yard 13: No Surrender. Author Johns 14: Re: Pacific Front 15: My Ship Trip 16: Photos 17: BWN 1/350 DD808 Dennis Buckley Info Needed 18: UK IPMS NATS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: "HALLO SAILOR!" and "WR PRESS FLOWER CLASS CORVETTES" 2: New from Tom's Modelworks 3: Bismarck Photo Documentary Book for Sale -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: GrafSpee34@aol.com Subject: National Maritime Museum >> Maritime Museum in Greenwich is a remarkble place. There are not a lot of Models << I think that ought to be qualified. There are not a whole lot of models of steel ships. But their collection of superb admiralty board models is remarkable, and displayed so that they may be viewed from both sides. The models feature interiors. It is a humbling experience to view these marvels of 18th C craftsmanship. Also, the NMM has a nice contemporary dockyard model of the Panzerschiff Admiral Scheer. Cheers Dave Krakow -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Sami Subject: New Kits hi everybody, could anyone comment on the brand new 1/700 kits of the battleship "Bretaigne" and the heavy cruiser "York"? the BB is an Italian company (Delphis?), and the CA is a Samek kit of Chech republic (i think). Thanks in advance Sami Arim Walnut Creek, Ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: CBNJBB62@aol.com Subject: Fujimi 1/700 Iowas Hi Can any one tell me what are the differences between the Fujimi Iowa class 1/700 Th. scale kits are. They have done the Iowa, New Jersey, and Missouri. The art work on the Iowa kit shows the original bridge design which was similar to the South Dakota class. The New Jersey kit (which I have) claims to be a Korean war version yet has 20 mm guns. I thought they were removed. I'm thinking of getting the other two. Any help would be appreciated. As far as the Kirov kit goes I think Imperial Navy was going to release a 1/700 resin kit of the ship. Craig Bennett -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "John Snyder" Subject: Re: Scale Hose/Cable What I used to use for such purposes in detailing HO scale model railroad equipment was small-diameter solder. It wraps nicely around hose reels, takes paint, and looks great. These days, there's probably even smaller diameter stuff available than what I used to use. John Snyder Snyder & Short Enterprises The Paint Guys -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "David Hathaway" Subject: 1/250 Steve 1:250 is the "standard" scale for card/paper models of ships. There are a lot to choose from in this scale and also some 1:100, 1:200 and 1:400. Mail me offline if you want a pointer to an on-line catalogue from a mail order house. David David Hathaway -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: SantMin@aol.com Subject: Re: model fire hose >> I need some more help. I'd like to wrap some 'realistic' hose/cable into 350 scale reels (a GMM set), question is what can I use? << I don't think you can beat fine lead wire. It wraps well and stays put (does not spring back when shaped). Available in many sizes at fishing tackle stores and a few hobby outlets too. Cheers, Bob Santos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "graham" Subject: Horror story Hears a new thread for you all, There I was just finishing the Hood's rigging and my clip on the table light/magnifier decided to fall over on to the Hood. Result bits every where flatten photo etch, broken photo etch, main mast flattened, Director missing plus many other bits. Soooooooo disheartening, wanting to have it done for the nats :(. I have restarted it but I will be lucky to get it finished, I will have to scratch the main mast/radar etc. Hi Graham, OUCH. Hang in there buddy. Just don't rush too much, trying to get it finished. There's always next year. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: SHIPMDLR@aol.com Subject: IPMS(USA) Constitution & bylaws A while back it was pointed out to me that the IPMS(USA) Constitution and bylaws was NOT on the IPMS/USA web site. Good news, it's there now for all to see and download if you wish. When I accessed the page from the IPMS(USA) homepage, a Tripod.Com ad would appear at the top every time you switched to a different page. The web master gave me another URL for the IPMS(USA) Constitution that will work until the problems can be resolved. The URL is: http://ipmstomcat.home.att.net/ipms/index.htm Rusty White Flagship Models Inc. http://www.okclive.com/flagship/ "Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Chris Drage" Subject: John Frohock's Ship Trip Hi all, Just a comment on the bits that John missed on his recent UK sojourn. At Portsmouth he didn't mention the amazing remains of Henry VIII's flagship Mary Rose, which, when fully restored will provide us with an amazing view into Tudor naval life. Again, across the water at Gosport is HM Submarine Aliance in her late WWII fit. This too is a tremendous guided tour. Similarly, Chatham Naval Dockyard (kent) has preserved Britain's last WWII vintage destroyer HMS Cavalier in 1960s fit and a 'cold war' (1960s) Submarine HMS Ocelot. Here too is the amazing award winning 'wooden Walls' exhibition giving aus an experience of 18th C ship building and the Ropery which just has to be seen to be believed. The dock yard accoutrements are all there too including WWII vintage AA gun and emplacements 'protecting' the port. 'Oop North' at Merseyside there is a U-boat and another submarine both of which I have not visited so I will leave it up to other SMMeLies to describe. Regards, Chris He tao rakau e taea te karo, tena he tao kupa kaore e taea te karo......(Te Reo Maori) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: James Corley Subject: Re: BB aircraft >> What was the spotting differences between the OS2U-3 and the OS2N-1?!?!? The easiest way to tell them apart is to read the little letters on the tail! << I have never been able to determine the difference between the aircraft myself, other than the fact that I have never seen a OS2N on landing gear (always with floats) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: James Corley Subject: Re: Beware of Viking Models! >> Once they pay someone to redesign the sets, I obviously will have no problem with them. From all I have seen they are trying to copy my copyrighted parts. I have a program on my computer that can detect only MY copyrighted parts. I am the only one who has this program. It was custom designed for me by my brother who works for the military. I can instantly detect copies of Flagships work even from a scan or photo of the parts, so proving copyright infringement is no problem. << Rusty, I can sympathize. I think you should sue their pants off. As for your claim, I think I know how I could, if I wanted, copy any part by anybody without them being able to prove a thing. I wont disclose how to do this here, but if you will recall a discussion we had at IPMS98, you will realize how it can be done. BTW, when I am finished I would have original artwork that would be sufficient to stand up to any test. Like I've said before, I'd be one dangerous terrorist if I had no morals.....and I think most of us on the list are intelligent and/or experienced enough to create some sophisticated weaponry if a need ever arose. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: SeaPhoto@aol.com Subject: Book Review - The Yard Hello Everyone, I wanted to share a short note recommending a new book that I just finished. The Yard By Michael Sanders ISBN 0-06-019246-1 It details the building and fitting out of an Arleigh Burke class destroyer, the Donald Cook, at Bath Iron Works, Maine. From the initial design, cutting and bending plate, assembling the modules, installation, launch, crew training and trials, the whole process is described through the stories of the men and woman who build and work on the Destroyers. A number of photographs and illustrations help the reader to understand the various processes involved, although the book is mostly text. Sanders has an easy writing style that lets him relate complex details in an easily understandable way. When you put this book down, you will have a greater understanding of not only warship construction, but why people do difficult, dangerous work for less than they might make elsewhere. You will also learn a bit about piloting, how to launch a large ship, and the lore of commissioning ceremonies, and even the training of a ship's crew. I really enjoyed this book a lot, and recommend it to those interested in modern warships and their construction. Kurt SeaPhoto -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13) From: "Rees, Graham" Subject: No Surrender. Author Johns Mike, I have a copy of the book at home. I think the paperback edition I have was published in late 1960s or early 1970s. I vaguely remember that it has been re-issued as well. I can bring it to work Monday/Tuesday if you do not get reply from the 1st correspondent. This E-mail originates from work. There are some photos in it, but a lot of the book is about the time spent by the author in Japanese captivity. Graham Rees -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: Pacific Front >> I bought one of each about 6 months ago from Bill Gruner at Pacific Front Hobbies, give him a call << Speaking of which, does anyone know if Bill is up and running after the BIG MOVE? New address and phone number? Anyone gotten any of his mail updates? Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15) From: Norman Samish Subject: My Ship Trip John, you did such a good job of describing the English maritime museums that now I want to make the trip! Thanks, Norm Samish Hi John, Yup, I second that as well. Brought back nice memories of our trip in 92. Except, I didn't know as much then ;-((. Shane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16) From: Clifford Franklin Subject: Photos WRPRESS' requests for photos are getting trickier. Here's what I have for the latest batch: Renown: In Peter Smith's book "The Great Ships Pass" there is a photo of Renown supposedly firing at Spartivento in November 1940 (if the caption is to be believed). The ship looks to be in overall medium grey. Photo is from the IWM. Bonaventure: I have a photo I photocopied out of a Time/Life book entitiled "Australians at War: Greece, Crete and Syria." The shot is of Aussie troops on the quarterdeck of Perth en route to Greece, but in the close background is an unidentified Dido class cruiser wearing a two tone camouflage, seen from the port bow. This could well be Bonaventure. (The photo is from the AWM & it's number is AWM 7078. hth, Shane) Shropshire: The website on WW2 Cruiser Operations has a story about the cruiser Capetown. What is thought to be Shropshire can be seen in the background of one of the photos there. The time frame is around February 1941, and the colour is overall light grey. The site is at http://www.world-war.co.uk/index.htm Dorsetshire: Australian War Memorial photo database has a photo of this ship and Hermes taken on 9 June 1940. Both are in light grey. Neg no. 305254. Neptune: No photos, but in the book "Almost HMNZS Neptune" by Jack Harker the author has this to say about the colour of the ship: In July 1940 all ships in Alexandra were "given personal options in their choice of dazzle camouflage and many works of art resulted. As well, Neptune's decks were painted blue [on captains orders]" In November 1940 at Capetown the "camouflage received a coat of paint." Whilst leaving port "the motorboat was instructed to take port and starboard photos of the new camouflage" At the end of her refit in the UK in May 1941, the "blue painted fo'c'sle and quarterdecks were scrubbed clean" and a "personal grey camouflage applied" Hope this helps cheers Cliff Franklin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17) From: Kenneth Davis Subject: BWN 1/350 DD808 Dennis Buckley Info Needed SMMLers: I have long been interested in modelling the Sumner/Gearing destroyers in 1/350 and have come across a deal on a BWN DD808 Dennis Buckley radar picket Gearing. I was wondering if any of you had any experience/feedback on this kit that you could share? How does this kit rate for "buildability"? By that, I mean how is the general parts fit, is there much scratchbuilding needed, how are the instructions, etc... Thanks in advance for any info that you can provide. I look forward to hearing from you all. Kenn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18) From: Les Pickstock Subject: UK IPMS NATS Tim Perry writes >> If we are going to the Nats, or any other show come to that, can't we have a badge that says 'Talk to me, I am a SMMLie' << Les says So you will recognise a fellow SMMLie I'll be the one fastened to the back of the badges that say IPMS UK, IPMS Leicestershire, rec.model.scale and SMML. Seriously, any who wants to say hello and misses me at any of the various "get-togethers" can find me at the IPMS Leicestershire tables. >> I will be at Telford, hopefully with a Stereolithographic 1:350 LCI hull in my pocket.<< Or it could be that you're just pleased to see us, Tim! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Caroline Carter" Subject: "HALLO SAILOR!" and "WR PRESS FLOWER CLASS CORVETTES" No... I'm not referring to John Snyder here! We have just received "SAILOR", Part One, We Are Sailing, consisting of a 2 x 90 minutes video set. This is the late 1970's BBC documentary on the last tour of Ark Royal before she was scrapped (all the old gits like ourselves will remember this .. the one with Rod Stewart's "Sailing" as the theme song.. you know!!). Hmmm.... I an see I'm going to have a nostalgic evening in... will be trying to spot fellow SMMLlie Tim Stoneman in flared trousers somwhere on the vid.. It is only available in PAL format, and is priced at 16.99 Pounds in the U.K. and 14.46 Pounds for outside Europe. Part Two, Homeward Bound, is expected soon, at the same price. AND.. today we received in the mail, an exclusive preview of WR PRESS FLOWER CLASS CORVETTES Part One, by John Lambert (well.. just the covers actually,and with a trace of the Hallowed Cigar Smoke to boot!). I will bring this along to the Nationals next weekend. This tome will have no less than one hundred and sixty pieces of art (1939-41 period). It is scheduled for a March 2000 release. All profits towards John and Alan's retirement fund, so you know that you're contributing to a good cause!!! Front Page: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/wrpress/flower1.jpg Back Page: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models/wrpress/flower2.jpg Price will be 16.95 Pounds ($27.00) plus shipping. Reservations being taken RIGHT NOW! Reservations ALSO being taken now on ROYAL NAVY CAMOUFLAGE OF WW2 Volume One by Alan Raven, 56 pages, 12" x 9", eight pages in colour. ROYAL NAVY CAMOUFLAGE OF WW2 Volume two will cover R/N camouflage in 1942, ROYAL NAVY CAMOUFLAGE OF WW2 Volume three will cover 1943-45. The afore-mentioned titles, due to their smaller size, be considerably cheaper than previous WR Press publications. Also, this series will be open-ended (YES!!!!!!), so other navies will be covered in later volumes. Cheers! Caroline Carter WHITE ENSIGN MODELS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Tom & Carolyn Harrison" Subject: New from Tom's Modelworks Set 741 US Gato Submarine & IJN Sub Chaser detailing set $6.25 (designed for the Pearl Harbor Diorama project currently under development) Still have a few of the free set 742's for qualified orders. See our web site: http://www.tomsmodelworks.com for details for discounts and how to get the free set. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: GrafSpee34@aol.com Subject: Bismarck Photo Documentary Book for Sale Hi! One more duplicate book from my Kriegsmarine library now up for grabs on eBay: Breyer & Koop's "SCHLACHTSCHIFF BISMARCK" One hell of a good photo documentary that puts you on the Bismarck's decks with a ton (over 100!) of close up detail photos that you can NOT find in other books. Starts at $1. I put pics of sample pages on my listing so check it out and thanks for bidding! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181945413 Cheers! Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for having SMML at your home, why not stop by our home at: http://www.smml.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume