Subject: SMML VOL 1213 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 02:09:19 +1000 shipmodels@tac.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Advice Prize 2: Re: Sirmar 1/72 FLower fittings 3: Re: WW 1 Destroyers - deck finishes 4: Re: The Queen's Soaking Rump As Cartoon 5: Re: USS Alaska in 1/350 6: My Falkland Warriors 7: Re: Kingfisher 8: Kelly 9: Advice sought 10: Honolulu Star Bulletin Article 11: Re: Roger Hill 12: The Seattle Times: Local News: Tall ships will race to Seattle next year -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Friedrich Kappes Subject: Advice Prize What was the original name of the French vessel built in 1702, captured in 1704 by the British and renamed Advice Prize, 18 guns? Thank you in advance! Friedrich The FriedrichFiles http://sites.netscape.net/friedkappes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Re: Sirmar 1/72 FLower fittings >> Can anyone steer to me to a good (US) source for the Sirmar detail parts for the 1/72 Flowers? << You can obtain the Sirmar 1/72 sets from Loyalhanna Dockyard in the U.S. They offer the full range of Revell kit aftermarket fittings such as rafts, bridge set, hedgehog, armament, stanchions, ship's boats and a research pack. They can be had as individual sets or in a special package price for the entire range. Contact Loyalhanna at www.loyalhannadockyard.com or at 716-494-0027. Victor Baca Model Ship Journal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: "J. London" Subject: Re: WW 1 Destroyers - deck finishes British destroyers had painted steel decks over engine and boiler spaces while other were corticene. Steel decks tended to be hull colour. German destroyers (still referred as torpedo boats back then) were black overall early in the war. But, like the RN, the Kaiserliche Marine probably discovered that dark colours were not a good idea as they stood out in the hazy conditions so often found in the North Sea. They then changed to light grey. The greys were not consistent from ship to ship, or even on the same ship, as use was probably made of what was available. As far as I can tell from photographs decks were similarly repainted but only as the need arose as they were not a factor in visibility. So you will find some with original black decks and light grey hulls while, on others, the decks were light, medium or dark grey. One has to remember that wartime painting was not the pristine finish found in peacetime. No particular scheme was followed use being made of available paints. Michael London -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Re: The Queen's Soaking Rump As Cartoon >> gunshield artwork (cartoon. . . harrumph) << If "cartoon" is good enough for Peter Elliott (his landmark "Allied Escort Ships Of WWII" is a well-worn bookshelf friend), cartoon is good enough for me. Hank Ketchum, Charles Schulz, Berkeley Breathed and John Cullen Murphy would give you a good show in any art gallery featuring their cartoons. Victor Baca -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: "Victor M. Baca" Subject: Re: USS Alaska in 1/350 >> I built the Classic Warships 1:350 Alaska and thought of having the hanger doors open only after I already had the superstructure glued to the deck with allot of detail on it. This would have been not worth the trouble to bore out the resin and risk destroying the finished super. Poor planning on my part. << USS Alaska was one of the most handsome designs to come out of World War Two and it wasn't until I saw pictures of Mr. Bender's Alaska that I really began to appreciate her lines. Keith has nothing to worry about--His USS Alaska is a beaut and is appearing now in a certain journal for ship modelers. One thing I forgot to ask you about, Keith-What was that award winning medal she sports on her display stand? Victor Baca -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: johnny chen Subject: My Falkland Warriors Finally, I was able to complete my 2 sets of 1/700 Falkland sets. Special thanks to John Currie and Craig R Bennett for helping me out on the initial stages for the ships' fittings. These are my 4th-7th kit so far to date... Apologies, I am a novice who just want to display my work :). http://members.fortunecity.com/akula88/south.html http://members.fortunecity.com/akula88/type64.html Akula -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: Craig R Bennett Subject: Re: Kingfisher Hi Guys The subject of the Kingfisher observation seaplanes made me reread my squadron book on them. The production produced OS2U-1-3 Kingfisher. There was a not produced OS2U-4 seaplane that would have been equipped with folding wings but by then the Curtiss SC-1-2 Seahawk came along and interested the navy instead. Today I learned that AAA Hobbies has agreement to produce a book by Scale Warships on the battleship New Jersey which will be released on Sept 2,2001. The same day the real ship opens as a museum. I don't know much more than that. Should be interesting to see what developes. Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "chenyangzhang" Subject: Kelly Hi Steve The Hill story about Jervis is probably untrue - but the fact that pre-war destroyers had better accommodation (if you were an officer) is correct. Sources tell me that Hill has passed on but there is a little more information about him in G G Connell's Mediterranean Maelstrom. He had marital and personal problems but these are not elaborated upon. Chris Langtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "D.Przezdziecki" Subject: Advice sought Dear SMMLers, I have a large number of plans of warships from 1890-1905 period which due to their age and poor printing quality could do with restoration. The graphic program I am using right now is Micrographic's Picture Publisher v 7 but since it was included as a part of the package with my scanner,the manual for the PP was not included. Now I can cope with straight lines and circles but diagonal lines,angles,ovals and curvatures necessary to draw ship's plans are beyond me. Either the program is not good at this shapes or (as likely) I have no idea what I am doing ! Does anybody know about a program which can be helpfull in my restoration plans and would not require to sell any of my vital body parts in order to buy it??? Regards D.P -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10) From: Dave Shirlaw Subject: Honolulu Star Bulletin Article New Arizona model kit makes its debut By Burl Burlingame Let's get small! Scale modeling is still the world's third-favorite hobby after stamp- and coin-collecting. Playing video games isn't really a hobby, it's more of an affliction. Let's kick this off with breaking news -- there's a new kit of the USS Arizona on the horizon. Sized in the popular 1/350 scale, it's produced by a start-up Chinese company called Banner. It's their first offering. The last time a plastic kit of the Arizona was offered was in the late '50s. That kit was produced by Revell, and was in the oddly sized 1/426th scale, called "box scale" by older modelers because, frankly, that was the size that fit in the box. The instruction sheet contained a request for donations to build the USS Arizona Memorial, and continued to do so long after the memorial was built. The kit is one of the best-selling model kits of all time. The latest edition has it double-boxed as half of a "Pearl Harbor Attack Set," along with a bagged kit of a Hasegawa-manufactured B5N2 "Kate" bomber, plus a nice booklet. Resin and etched-metal parts are included. The double kit goes for a little over $30, and is wildly over-boxed; there's enough room in there for a dozen more models. Even so, USS Arizona kits have been in short supply since the "Pearl Harbor" movie. The '50s Revell kit, despite the odd scale, wasn't a bad piece of work back then, but the technology of producing model kits has improved mightily in the last half-century, and accelerated in the last five years thanks to computer-controlled moldmaking. The Revell kit is clunky by today's standards, but it's the only game in town. Revell also produced a 1/720 Arizona, and Tom's Modelworks produced a fantastically detailed "garage kit" in 1/350 that had more than 500 parts. Because of the number of parts, ship kits are generally ignored by major manufacturers in favor of airplanes and cars. But the new kit of the Arizona has an interesting background; it was commissioned by model-kit distributor Marco Polo as a result of marketing surveys, and Marco Polo then created a model company to meet the perceived demand. Rumors of the kit had been floating for months, and the likely source for this all-American kit was almost certainly going to be overseas. The adventuresome companies in the business are now in China and the former Soviet republics, while American manufacturers like Revell and Monogram have skated along on stale re-releases and wondering why their sales have slipped -- so badly that the American model-kit industry is virtually dead in the water. Word of the "test shots" of the new Arizona kit indicate, surprisingly, that the engineering is heavily influenced by the ancient Revell kit. Many improvements have been made in the small details. Release date for the Banner kit is still undecided, but will be before the 60th anniversary of the attack this December. Price will be in the $40 range. Will the kit sell? The price is right, and if it's as accurate as promised, should have a long shelf-life. TIP OF THE WEEK: The primary adhesive used in modeling these days is cyanoacrylate or "Krazy" glue, but since the stuff is watery and colorless, it's hard to see. New brands of cyanoacrylates are colored and easy to see as they're applied. Particularly when you glue your fingers together. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11) From: "Lester Abbey" Subject: Re: Roger Hill Roger Hill lived for some years in Nelson on the top of the South Island and then moved down to Timaru. He died very recently (I believe) I remember reading his obituary in the local newspaper (Wellingon Dominion) just a couple of weeks ago. Lester Abbey Wellington New Zealand -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12) From: JRKutina@webtv.net (John Kutina) Subject: The Seattle Times: Local News: Tall ships will race to Seattle next year http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/134315096_sail07m.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume