Subject: SMML VOL 1534 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:08:50 +1100 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: Re: Sub performance 2: Re: Dremel 3: Re: Airbrushes 4: Re: airless sprayer 5: Re: Understating performance parameters 6: Calling Francisco 7: Re: California Book 8: Ships Bells 9: Airless Sprayers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD INDEX 1: Re: Classic Warships #15 and #16 2: Desparately seeking Repulse 3: Colourcoats Restock -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Ives100@aol.com Subject: Re: Sub performance >> As a contractor working on certain naval programs we were briefed on what we could or could not say about the performance of a certain ship or submarine. The recommended words to be used in non-cleared situations was ... "Speeds in excess of 20 knots, depths in excess of 400 feet". Use those and you would have no trouble with the security people << It has now been changed to "speeds in excess of 24 knots and depths in excess of 800 feet" Tom Dougherty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Bradford Chaucer Subject: Re: Dremel >> May I suggest making a sleeve to be presssed (or even soldered) onto the Dremel bit's shaft to enable one to use Dremel bits in other chucks? The inner diameter would have to be 1/8 inch suitable for the Dremel, the outside diameter whatever is required. Worth a try, but be careful. Similar adapters might be made to allow other larger shank bits in the Dremel. << A down sizing adaptor sleeve will work, if you are careful to ensure concentricity. However under no circumstances should you try an adapter to use a 1/4 in bit in a dremel. The thing will never run true and will probably bend under stress tearing up the work, itself, your Dremel front bearings and your fingers. Regards, Bradford Chaucer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: airartcsb@juno.com Subject: Re: Airbrushes I have painted with an airbrush for over twenty years and have just recently wrote a section in a book on how to draw and paint aircraft. This is an excerpt from the book. I hope it helps. P.S. The Iwata duel action HP-C is great for model work. Painting With An Airbrush Developed as an atomizer using compressed air to spray paint, the airbrush is a useful tool. Using masks, stencils or free hand to direct the paint and to prevent overspray on the surface of the painting, an airbrush can deliver color from a fine line to a wide spray pattern. There are many different types of airbrushes and manufacturers these come in a wide range of prices and capabilities. Airbrushes mix the paint and air internally inside the head. Some have a gravity system and some a siphon system. Choose the airbrush that best meets your needs. You have a wide choice! Internal mix airbrushes combine the air and paint in the head assembly and produce a thoroughly atomized fine dot spray. In an airbrush that mixes the air and paint externally, larger dots compose the spray pattern. An airbrush with a trigger that controls only the flow of air is considered to be single action and the paint spray is regulated by an adjustment screw in an internal mix airbrush or, in the external mix, by twisting the fluid cap on the paint tip. Airbrushes with triggers that control the air and the color are considered to be dual action and let you change line width, values, and paint opacity while the hand is in motion and in my opinion this offers finer control though they may be more expensive they are worth the price. In an airbrush with gravity feed, color cups are mounted above the head assembly and the paint moves downward in reaction to the pull of gravity. A gravity feed requires less air pressure and gives you an opportunity to use slower hand movement for better detail. When the color cup is connected below the head assembly, the paint is siphoned to the assembly. In the siphon feed system, a variety of color cups can be accessed and colors can be changed more quickly and easily. A third variety, the side feed airbrush, has a small color cup fitted onto the side. This allows you to rotate the assembly and to work on horizontal or vertical surfaces. The process of painting with an airbrush is as varied as there are artists. The airbrush, siphons paint from a reservoir using air pressure, then atomizes the paint into small particles that then stick to the surface of the canvas. Mixing paint in the reservoir can produce variations of color or this may also be done directly on the surface of the canvas. This is very similar to the way printing is done by placing dots of pigment close to each other and then allowing the human eye to do the mixing. A glaze can also be rendered by spraying a pigment reduced with water, this creates the illusion of depth when used in multiple layers. By using red, yellow or orange, the artist can "warm" up different parts of his painting by glazing. Conversely by using green blue or purple a "cooling" down can be affected. As with any tool the airbrush has it's limitations and is only as good as the talent of the artist who wields it. C.S. Bailey wrote, "It is for the ability of the airbrush to reproduce a photograph-like image and its smooth application that I choose to use it. With my background in photography, it seemed like the natural extension to express myself as an artist. "What better way to paint aircraft than with "air?" An airbrush lends itself to rendering aircraft. The way an airbrush produces the stressed skin of the plane or its fluidity in graduating skies fits my painting technique perfectly. "Painting with the airbrush empowers the artist to break free of traditional procedures and enables the artist to paint in three dimensions. Being able to layer color and use mixed media leaves the artist to mix and match to special needs. "Airbrushing is a truly remarkable way to paint. It is a versatile tool that can produce a dazzling amount of creativity and should be considered on an equal par with other methods of fine art. Airbrushing is a unique art form and has certain qualities that other media cannot provide." C. S. Bailey Aviation and Naval artist www.kcshop.com/airartcsb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: "roy knight" Subject: Re: airless sprayer I don't know if this will help but I use an airless sprayer to paint appartments, and they aren't all that great. You get just about the same amount of overspary as you get on the object you are painting. You couldn't pay me enough to use one on one of my projects, unless it was a 1:1 kit which is not happening per my wife. Stick with a single or double action airbrush you will be much happier. just my .02 worth. Roy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Richa5011@aol.com Subject: Re: Understating performance parameters Ed wrote: >> The recommended words to be used in non-cleared situations was ... "Speeds in excess of 20 knots, depths in excess of 400 feet". Use those and you would have no trouble with the security people << Vague always works... In Excess of Nat Richards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: Sanartjam@aol.com Subject: Calling Francisco Francisco, Please contact me - I can't find your e-mail address! The magazines you wanted are here. Art Nicholson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: SteveWiper@aol.com Subject: Re: California Book >> Of course, that leads to the obvious question, Steve...are we going to see a California book from CW? I'm sure that would be superb!! << Hopefully before I die. So many ships, so little time. You are talking (E-mailing) to a one man band. It is very hard to even approach printing 6 titles per year, and at that rate, if I live another 20 to 30 years, Then I might get a few more books out! Steve Wiper -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: nd.ward@virgin.net Subject: Ships Bells As I recall, most merchant ships had 3 bells!, one on the foc'sle, which was used to indicate how many shackles of anchor chain had been run out, one in the engine room which was used to strike 8 bells at the end of the watch, and one on the bridge to polish and look pretty! Also bells are the most common momento of a ship, they are duplicated many times over, and careful provenance should be made before parting with any cash. My local bar has a 'Titanic' bell - genuine I am assured!! Dave Ward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: "Martin Short" Subject: Airless Sprayers Ike, These devices use a high ratio piston pump to force paint, adhesive etc, at very high pressure through a fine orifice (spray tip)in order to achieve atomisation.Typical operating pressures are 3000 - 5000psi depending on size of unit.(due to the high pressures, they need to be treated with respect!) Choice of spray tip is determined by viscosity of the substance you want to apply, and also the fan width desired. Precise they are not. The finish is at best average with waterbased paint IMHO, but I have never tried enamel. With adhesive who cares! Overspray can still be an issue, just that the aerosol tends to be larger particles so doesnt spread as far. With solvent based material you still have the same health and safety issues as a conventional air system. Their sole purpose is to apply large volumes of paint or adhesive very quickly to large areas, so a 15ml tinlet of humbrol, sorry WEM colour on this list!, won't go very far.............:-) That said, airless sprayers are very compact and portable compared to an equivalent airspray unit, but are also more expensive viz a viz.... And just as noisy. I have one of these contraptions for testing adhesive sprayability... roofing applications etc, at work... I'm not aware of any small / airbrush size units unless you consider a "wagner"!!!! If you want to spray inside, buy a small compressor such as used by Carpet Layers or Builders for air operated staple guns (@ 6cfm with a 6 to 10 litre tank). These are generally cheaper (at least in NZ) than proprietary diaphragm compressors and heaps better. Better pressure control, pressure range, enough air delivery for any airbrush, and you can fit a decent moisture trap. Spray at low pressure, use acrylics and overspray will not be a problem..but still wear a good mask! cheers, Martin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRADERS, ANNOUNCEMENTS & NOTICEBOARD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: Randy Short Subject: Re: Classic Warships #15 and #16 >> Can you please quote their ISBN numbers. My son in the States needs the ISBN identity so that he can order them for me. << Kelvin, I have a note to e-mail you about them. They are in my hands-$12 each + shipping. Where are you at. If your son wants to order them have him send us a check for the $24, if you are overseas postage will be 20%. Randy Short at Snyder and Short www.shipcamouflage.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Keith Butterley Subject: Desparately seeking Repulse Hi group, I would like to trade for an Airfix Repulse. I am sure there is something in my inventory that might be of interest or something I can get in. OK ok money talks bs walks, what's your price? Perhaps an Airfix Victorious as well? Once I get these I am not getting any more kits, I promise. Don't laugh, Airfix quit making ship kits years ago and I only need these two. Ok ok I don't have the Forrestal, but I don't care about it. Well, maybe. Ok ok, if somebody would start making new 600 scale kits I "might" open my wallet. Anybody out there listening? Regards Keith Butterley warshipbooks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: John Snyder Subject: Colourcoats Restock We just got word yesterday that new supplies of the seven colours that we'd run out of--AP 507A, AP 507B, AP 507C, 5-H Haze Gray, 5-N Navy Blue, Deck Blue 20-B--are "in the mail" and should be back in stock today or tomorrow. Backorders will go out as soon as we get the labels on the tins. IJN and modern RN, USN, German and French colours are being actively worked on. Cheers, John Snyder White Ensign Models http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/white.ensign.models -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume