Subject: SMML VOL 1658 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 00:18:55 +1000 SMML is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http://sandlehobbies.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1: moving models 2: Re: Painting opinions 3: Re: Does Size matter 4: Re: Flag Trivia 5: Hasegawa Kits 6: Re: USS Stennis/other CVN's 7: Painting Suggestion 8: Re: 1/400 Gorizia deck painting 9: Re: 1:600 Charles DeGaulle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From: "Andrew Jones" Subject: moving models Maybe just an idea or 2 * Maybe cut out those foam packaging things that use to pack computers & the like & then place say wire or a dowel sort of stuff to construct a side, base & maybe a roof * another idea is that expanding filler that comes in a can to fill in holes around pipes & stuff, I tried to use that for a base once, not very even & the thing weighed a tonne afterwards & then ended up in the bin cuz I wasn't happy with it, but mabe you could mould a sort of casing out of it..it dried rock solid, so you wont have to worry about something ramming it ,,,well practise first see if its worth it * where I work we have stacks of those little air filled pillow style bags that fill up stuff we rcv, they seem to work well as I sometimes put one or 2 in when I go to an APMA meeting, & I catch a bus, then a train & then another bus to get there & I have only had 1 or 2 broken bits -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From: Stephen Allen Subject: Re: Painting opinions Jeff Plasticine (play-doh) or blu-tack is commonly used as a conformable masking agent when painting winged thingies. Both materials can be cut with a scalpel for a sharp edge, so that you could cut strips for the width of the stripes. While this works for spraying, I think you would get bleed under if you were brush painting,although you could try sealing the edges with gloss clear before applying the colour coat to avoid this. Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From: NAVYDAZE@aol.com Subject: Re: Does Size matter Steve, you could be right - at one time I had a Union Jack that I believe was used on a Minesweeper and it was really small - about 2' X 2' - yet I recall seeing much larger ones on bigger ships. Mike Donegan NAVYDAZE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From: NAVYDAZE@aol.com Subject: Re: Flag Trivia To John Heasel - ah you got to love the service - on the HAWK what I could never understand is we would always have man overboard drills with Oscar, half the time our whale boats engines would never start and we would have to launch the port side one which sorta worked. But if we had a real man overboard, the helicopter was always there to pick them up even before could get the boat down to the water. Always seemed ridicules to me! Navy tradition I guess. Mike NAVYDAZE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From: Ken LeClair Subject: Hasegawa Kits Hello Modelers, I was in my local hobby shop and was tempted to purchase one of the 1/450 ships by Hasegawa. Would apreciate some good or bad points known about these kits before I do make a purchase. Regards Ken LeClair, MS HMCS Protecteur -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From: CDRSKI@aol.com Subject: Re: USS Stennis/other CVN's >> CBS produced a special documentary which aired last night. It was about life on the USS John Stennis, our nuclear carrier fighting the war in Afghanistan, and it was hosted by the venerable anchorman Tom Brokaw. He got to spend ome time onboard, documented operations, met the crew, and even flew backseat in a Tomcat on a photo recon mission. Anyway, the purpose of this post is to point out that this carrier does not have a the usual ship's number number on the forward flight deck. There were several very clear shots of the flight deck, and at first I thought perhaps the numbers were obscured by grime or scuffs. But when I saw the area again and again, I firmly concluded there are no deck numbers. I wonder if the numbers are painted out for combat exercises? Interesting. << Rod, The numbers are there, but they are not solid anymore. They are now painted in as an outline that is 6" wide. Jet exhaust does make the number very hard to see, especially after extended periods of flying without a flight deck scrub. Jim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From: "John Rule" Subject: Painting Suggestion >> Ok, I face a major hurdle in this project...I'm building the RM Goizia from Tauro in 1/400 scale...all is well with the splinter pattern (major reason for the project in the first place) but I'm having all sorts of troubles masking the red stripes on the bow. The kit has the catapult rails, capstans and all sorts of vents molded into the deck, making normal masking techniques impossible. I've tried liquid mask, but the results were sub-par. Anyone have any quick fix suggestions? I was thinking some sort of foam or sponge-like material that I could just press down into the details...<< Just a thought. Perhaps try a medium such as plasticine or blue-tac. Press it onto deck so that it fits over all the projections. Press it in firmly, then cut the stripes with a sharp craft knife and remove the material from the areas to be painted. This should leave a mask in place. Best of luck. John -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From: "Rodney Lersch" Subject: Re: 1/400 Gorizia deck painting To Jeff Herne I just completed the same model and my solution was to paint the deck white and then mark off the red stripes with pencil. Then taking my time, I free-handed the red stripes. It's a slow process but the end result came out nice. The stripes should be at 30 degree angle and approx. 7/16" wide (6 white and 5 red). after trying the same methods you did, I found the free-hand method worked best for me. This is a very interesting model but there are some problems with fit, mainly with the super structure decks and the mast support legs that run through these several decks. It was a challenge but I finally got it right. This model definately requires some patience. IMO this class of Italian cruiser was a beautiful ship with interesting graceful lines. I had fun building it and I hope you do too. Rod Lersch -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9) From: PaulShip37@aol.com Subject: Re: 1:600 Charles DeGaulle I seem to recall that Charles DeGaulle was over six foot tall, but in 1:600 scale that would be about.....hmmm...didn't they call him "Le Grande Charles" or something like that? (observation, my spell check program just recommended replacing 'DeGaulle" with either "devalue" or "degauss") -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Backissues, Member's models & reference pictures at: http://smmlonline.com Check out the APMA site for an index of ship articles in the Reference section at: http://apma.org.au/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume