Subject: SMML VOL 2896 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:33:24 +1000 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re IPMS Nats 2 Re Golden Hinde 3 Enterprise CV-6 4 Re IPMS Nats Award Program 5 Re Golden Hinde 6 Kombrig query 7 Re Seven Seas 8 Golden Hind Kit ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Richa5011@aol.com Subject Re IPMS Nats Bradford wrote >> New this year were "Display Only" categories for those who wanted to show their work but not compete in contests. << Actually, Display Only has been around for a long, long time...the first National I attended was in 1983 and they had "DO" tables, though they were not heavily populated. Every National I've been to since has also had them with varying degrees of support. >> Overall the level of workmanship was astounding, and the line up of models almost mind numbing. I do not envy the task that faced the judges!! << I totally agree! Nat ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From Lars Scharff Subject Re Golden Hinde Hi Tom, there are no exact plans of Golden Hind, but only different reconstructions, which are based on the knowledge of 16th century English galeons. Beside other projects I am currently scratch building a 1/700 Golden Hind http//www.modellboard.de/thread.php?threadid=12074&boardid=28&styleid=1 (German board, with photos). I used drawings in "The story of sail" by Veres László and Richard Woodman (Naval Institut Press, 1999) and in "*Historic Ship Models" *by Wolfram Zu Mondfeld. The book by zu Mondfeld contains plans in 1/172 (labbeled as English galeon, 1588), which are good enough for a model. Especially because this book contains discussions about many details of historic ships. The drawings in "The story of sail" are in 1/400. Best regards Lars ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From beyondsun@mindspring.com Subject Enterprise CV-6 Hi Jean-Pierre, Leaving aside the (at least one) 1/700 kit(s) of Enterprise CV-6 - which IIRC are waterline only - there was always the full-hull, 1/490 scale Revell "Battle of Midway Carrier" kit. (Aka Yorktown CV-5; also issued over the years as Enterprise herself.) The Revell kit requires correction in several areas to make an early WWII CV-6 - more corrections for later in the war, and there are some excellent resin conversion sets (for the island) from Nautilus Models. But OOB the kit does have an accurate "face", as you put it (and I agree!); the hull on this kit overall is very nice and I believe rather accurate. Issued as Yorktown, Hornet, Enterprise - and again reissued now as "Battle of Midway Carrier" - it is readily available and pretty cheap, too! Cheers, Matty ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From "Ed Grune" Subject Re IPMS Nats Award Program James; Congratulations on an excellent convention. When we spoke in the model room after the banquet the frustration of sitting around waiting for the announcment of the awards was evident. I'm sorry for that. On reflection, and as pointed out by my wife, the announcement of the best-ofs is probably a better course for the awards program to proceed. We were out of the facility early. The announcement of four names for each of 250+ categories would take the better part of an hour (or more) - even if they are rattled off without pausing for applause. Perhaps some means of presenting a list of the winners without resorting to a photo-laced PowerPoint presentation should be investigated for future conventions. A database driven program has cratered twice in the last five years (ours in 2000), even when they were designed, developed, and run by highly compensated MS trained professionals. Bring back the camera & film ;-> Congrats again on the show. Ed Grune Mansfield, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From RDemeyere@aol.com Subject Re Golden Hinde >> i would like to model the Golden Hinde but i,ve seen at least 6or7 different variations.could anyone give me the scoop on this. << Tom, IIRC building sailing ships prior to the 17th century was not the scientific/engineering endeavour it would become later on. Much of it relied on master to apprentice training and designs were something kept as trade secrets, patterns, and formulas. There probably never was an authoritative set of builder's plans for the entire ship. The ship may have been simply laid out in the building ways by the master builder and his apprentices. In addition to this general looseness about documenting ship design, another fact to consider is that the Golden Hind may have been a foreign ship or prize whose lineage is now irretriveably lost. As for the actual ship, all that survives is a chair supposed to be made from some of the Golden Hind's timber after it was broken up. It is on display at Great Hall, Buckland Abbey, Devon (http//www.goldenhind.co.uk/education/worksheets/original.html) Plans for the ship are attempts to reconstruct the ship after the fact in accordance with the known ship building practices of the day. In a sense, they are a bit of reverse engineering based mostly on first person accounts of the ship that have been preserved and also on any paintings or drawings that are said to be of the ship or, lacking that certainty, of a contemporary ship of similar design. The only ship of that era that it is possible to make definitive statements concerning its design is Henry VII's "Mary Rose," whose damaged and decomposed hulk was recovered from the the Solent estuary. (http//www.maryrose.org/index.html ) The same situation applies to plans or models of the Mayflower and the Pinta, Nina, and Santa Maria. They are simply very educated best guesses. Bottom line, build the one whose design pleases you the most. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6) From "Dmitry Antonov" Subject Kombrig query >> Does anybody know the postal adress or e-mail adress of the russian model company "Kombrik" ? << Hello Detlef, The e-mail of Kombrig is kombrig_support@mail.ru You may found their catalogue at the Steelnavy site - www.steelnavy.com Cheers, Dmitry Antonov ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7) From Pieter Cornelissen Subject Re Seven Seas >> She was launched as a C-3 freighter, the Mormacmail just before WWII, The US Navt acquired her and she was converted into the first US escort carrier, the Long Island CVE-1. After the war she reverted to civilian control and was rebuilt as a passenger liner for displaced persons and later for the immigrant trade,take a look at < www.ssmaritime.com/sevenseas.htm > The Revell "Hawaiian Pilot " kit could provide a basic hull.... << Hi, In 1/700 one can get the Skywave/tamiya Bogue class CVE for the basic hull. For the CVE Version one would need to make some modifications as Long Island didn't have an island superstructure and a diffrent flight deck - look at the pictures on navsource for details. For The Seven Seas it is 'just' a clean hull to start with and a lot of work with styrene sheet - get a Hasagawa Hikawa Maru for boats, vents masts etc. For the original C3 configuration you can only use the hull. One thing about the re-issued 1/400 Revell Hawaiian Pilot. All of its decks are full of sink marks. This will not be much of a problem for the conversion except that it will be very difficult to use the upper bridge parts which are similar to both the original C3 and the Seven Seas. Pieter Cornelissen Delft, The Netherlands ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8) From "tel128" Subject Golden Hind Kit Hello, I have a Gowland Creations model kit of The Golden Hind from aprox. 1953. It is still in the cellophane bag in the original box (which is scuffed). Are you able to tell me if it is of any value as after some 53 years of possession I don't think I will assemble it now. I live in Nottinghamshire, UK Thanks in anticipation, Terry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume