Subject: SMML VOL 3037 Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 01:36:44 +1100 The Ship Modelling Mailing List (SMML) is proudly sponsored by SANDLE http//sandlehobbies.com For infomation on how to Post to SMML and Unsubscribe from SMML http//smmlonline.com/aboutsmml/rules.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS INDEX 1 Re Yorktown 2 MV Christmas Seal 3 HP Models 4 HMS Sumar 5 Re Renwal Polaris kits ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MODELLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) From Ned Barnett Subject Re Yorktown PC is right - I was in SC at the time, working for the state Development Board (the one he says got all the money - so explain to me why I got laid off in '75 in a state-wide across-the-board RIF), and writing speeches for two Governors. The state is acutely political, only marginally corrupt (by Southern standards - i.e., nowhere near to Gene Talmadge's shenanigans in Georgia), and was in those days desperate for tourism (after the Disney World deal fell through - true story, it was originally slated for Florence SC instead of Orlando). The ship museum became something of a statewide "cause," and my local (Columbia) model club was invited to create displays (which may still be there for all I know) and to encourage city-wide participation. The site has grown in stature since I was last there, but I still fondly remember the Yorktown even after 26 years. It's a great ship, a great museum (and it has at least three great models on display somewhere below decks ). Ned ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) From "Stephen Allen" Subject MV Christmas Seal Hi Guys The MV Christmas Seal is almost certainly one of the US Army 104 foot design 235 crash boats built for ww2 - some of which saw US navy service. The hull and wheelhouse match very closely the picture of such on p.435 of Friedman's US Small Combatants. happy New Year! regards Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3) From "Nuno Rubim" Subject HP Models I'm unable to order any kit directly from HP Models, Germany (they don't simply answer to my emails). Is there any UK shop with an online shopping service, from which I can order HP Kits? Thanks Nuno Rubim Portugal ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4) From Steve Rutledge Subject HMS Sumar Trying to find out anything about this boat. One of the few references on the Internet is this from your site http//smmlonline.com/archives/VOL0722.txt Trying to find a picture or further information. The boat was owned by friends who transferred it to the RN at the beginning of WWII. Any help would be appreciated. Steve Rutledge, Memphis, TN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5) From "Rick Nelson" Subject Re Renwal Polaris kits To follow up on Tom's comments, another issue confronting the design of an "interior" for a FBM is which interior? Boomers were routinely overhauled every 6 years and major changes in compartment layouts took place during these overhauls. For instance, The 608 Class and maybe the 598 Class (don't remember) initially went to sea with a 5 ton gyro in Auxiliary Machinery Room #1. After it was proven many times that the concept of precessing the sub was not a good idea (except during our bowling tournaments!) the gyro was removed on their first available overhaul. The Navigation Center equipment layouts changed significantly every overhaul which also affected the look of the masts in the superstructure. So, to build an interior you have to pick a specific point-in-time for it. In some cases this is even true for the exterior. When I used the Renwal kit to model the Sam Houston, circa 1966, not only was the interior so bad that I closed it up completely but I had to scratch-build an under-the-ice sonar "bump" forward of the torpedo room hatch. We had this approx. 3'x5'x3' dome added post commissioning and then it too was removed during first overhaul. One of the most interesting aspects of submarines in the '60s was that they were constantly in a state of change but it forces one to be extremely careful about what point-in-time you wish to represent. Rick ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the SMML site for the List Rules, Reviews, Articles, Backissues, Member's models & Reference Pictures at http//smmlonline.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of Volume